对比西蒙斯、塔特姆和米切尔,美球迷:场均数据和场上位置完美匹

[OC] Rookie Playoff Performances: Ben Simmons vs Jayson Tatum vs Donovan Mitchell

新秀季后赛表现对比:本-西蒙斯 vs 杰森-塔特姆 vs 多诺万-米切尔



对比西蒙斯、塔特姆和米切尔,美球迷:场均数据和场上位置完美匹


[–][CLE] LeBron JamesJAM35FH1 2220 指標 14小時前 

Tatum is the first person without legs to play in the NBA.

骑士球迷:如图所示,塔特姆是NBA史上第一个没有双腿的球员。

[–][PHI] Allen IversonEuroStep0 1796 指標 14小時前 

No, Derrick Rose is.

76人球迷:才不,德里克-罗斯才是。

[–][DET] Chauncey BillupsHalbridious 127 指標 10小時前 

Hey OP, if you did the graphic, a quick photoshop tip: you can magic wand over stuff you"ve chopped out like that, (or, if it"s the only thing on a layer, just ctrl+click the layer icon). Then just go to selection and "contract" a pixel or 3 from the selection. A quick CTRL+ I and you can delete an extra bit of fuzz from your selection. You can also use "Refine Edge" in the selection menu to help smooth some edges before you delete (though personally, I would be using a mask layer).

活塞球迷:LZ你好啊,如果是你本人做的这张图,分享个PS小技巧给你:抠图后可以用魔棒再处理下(或者,图层上只有这张图的话,可以按住ctrl再单击图层按钮),用快捷键CTRL+I可以再去掉一些模糊的部分。当然也可以用选项栏里的“优化边缘“这个选项来帮助你对不满意的部位进行边缘优化处理(但就我个人而言,我会选择使用图层蒙版)。

[–]Psychological_Mind 10 指標 8小時前 

You forgot the most important stat: Posters on Lebron- Tatum 1 Simmons 0 Mitchell 0

老哥你忘了一项重要的数据:隔扣勒布朗次数--塔特姆1,西蒙斯0,米切尔0。

[–]PistonsWMUKirk 808 指標 14時前 

Never seen a rookie class so impactful in the important games.

活塞球迷:这届新秀对重要比赛的影响程度真是我见过最大的。

[–]Hawksdaeve 515 指標 13小時前 

You must"ve missed Simmons going -63 vs Boston then

老鹰球迷:那你一定错过了西蒙斯对阵凯尔特人正负值-63的表现。

[–]RaptorsGetLowwweee 297 指標 11小時前 

Mitchell was -42 against Houston as well and shot 36% from the field. It"s weird everyone brings up Simmons vs the Celtics but seem to ignore Mitchell"s struggles. They aren"t supposed to be able to make a huge impact deep in the playoffs. That"s why the Tatum stuff is so crazy.

猛龙球迷:别忘了米切尔在对阵火箭的时候正负值-42,同时命中率低至36%。想想就觉得奇怪,大家都在给西蒙斯对阵凯尔特人的系列赛表现开会,但好像却忽略了米切尔的挣扎。这些新秀本不该具备对季后赛有如此深远影响的能力,所以塔特姆打成这个样子才让人觉得极其疯狂。

[–]Jazz BandwagonTheeOneUp 82 指標 10小時前* 

According to a lot of reports, Tatum was said to be the most pro ready player in the draft. Celtics head office are playing 4D chess.

爵士球迷:据很多记者报道,塔特姆(在选秀前)被认为是这届新秀中最准备好打职业篮球的新秀。凯尔特人真是下了一副大棋。

[–]Cavaliers BandwagonSteelxSaint 53 指標 10小時前 

Tatum wasn"t as deadly from 3 as he is now, but his form was very fluid, so I can see why Ainge valued him over Fultz. But what are you talking about in regards to him being the most pro-ready? Everyone was saying that about Fultz.

骑士球迷:选秀的时候塔特姆可没有像现在这样致命的三分能力,但他的投篮非常顺滑,所以我明白了为什么安吉觉得他比福尔茨更有价值。但你说他是最具有职业准备的球员是个什么情况?所有人都说福尔茨才是啊。

[–]Jazz BandwagonTheeOneUp 12 指標 10小時前 

I thought everyone said fultz was the most versatile.

爵士球迷:我还以为大家都说福尔茨是最万金油的球员呢。

[–]Cavaliers BandwagonSteelxSaint 50 指標 10小時前

 He was seen as the most versatile and pro-ready player in the draft, but not the one with the highest ceiling.

骑士球迷:福尔茨被认为是这届选秀中最万金油且最具有职业准备的球员,但并不是上限最高的。

[–]PistonsWMUKirk 332 指標 13小時前 

+/- is horrible without context. When you play the majority of the minutes and your team is being waxed, you get waxed too.

活塞球迷:不论比赛背景单看正负值可不行。当你的球队被打花而且你的出场时间很多,那你的正负值数据辣眼也是理所应当的啊。

[–]Hawksdaeve 242 指標 12小時前 

yeah but his backup McConnell was a +41.

老鹰球迷:这点我同意,但西蒙斯的替补TJ-麦康奈尔的正负值是+41啊。

[–]HornetsNamath96 90 指標 12小時前 

Not saying tj didn"t play great but he was also playing against the second unit for Boston more and Boston wasn"t exactly deep after all the injuries.

黄蜂球迷:我并不是说麦康奈尔打得不好,但他上场时对抗的更多的是凯尔特人的第二阵容,而凯尔特人在遭遇大面积伤病后的阵容深度确实也没有那么好了。

[–]Celticsogearty 63 指標 10小時前* 

But he started 2 games and was still a +21 for those 2.

凯尔特人球迷:但麦康奈尔首发打了两场比赛,而且这两场的正负值依然是+21。

[–]Thunderdrewskki1 83 指標 9小時前 

the guy asked for context, is given context, and argues that context is not contexutal enough lmao

雷霆球迷:哈哈哈哈层主要求看特定的比赛背景,大家把背景列出来之后,他又觉得背景不够全面。

[–]Trail BlazersIsMiseOzz 193 指標 14小時前 

Tatum also played an extra round.

开拓者球迷:别忘了,塔特姆多打了一轮系列赛。

[–]NBAArronax31 131 指標 11小時前 

I"m inclined to give him the top spot for that reason but Mitchell was his team"s offense, Celtics had the better all-around squad.

没错,正因为他多打了一轮系列赛,我更倾向觉得他的表现最好。但米切尔就是爵士的进攻体系,而凯尔特人的阵容更均衡一些。

[–]Hotsaucex11 163 指標 10小時前 

IMO it"s easily Mitchell when you consider the caliber of competition he faced and the massive role he was tasked with. Facing Westbrook/OKC then Harden/HOU makes for a much tougher set of matchups than either of the other guys faced. And he did that while often guarding the opposing superstar AND having a 31% usage rate (compared to just 22% and 23% for Tatum/Simmons).

如果考虑对手的阵容和承担下来的角色,我认为米一其随。第一轮对阵雷霆和威少,第二轮对阵火箭和哈登,比起其他两位新秀的境遇,米切尔的境遇更加艰难,与此同时,他还在防守对方的超级明星,也打出了31%的使用率(塔特姆是22%,西蒙斯是23%)。

That"s not to say he"s necessarily the best prospect going forward, just that he had the most impressive playoffs.

我不是说米切尔一定就是这三人里最有前景的那个,只是说他的季后赛表现最令人印象深刻。

[–][CLE] LeBron JamesBabu_the_Ocelot 46 指標 10小時前 

I agree - I think if Mitchell and Tatum swapped places Mitchell would have done similarly as well as Tatum has - that"s not to knock Tatum but rather to point out that Mitchell is at least on that level and shouldn"t be knocked just because he didn"t reach the conference finals in a stronger Western Conference.

骑士球迷:我同意 – 我觉得如果米切尔和塔特姆互换位置的话,米切尔的发挥也差不多 – 我没有黑塔特姆的意思,而是想指出米切尔至少和塔特姆在同一水平,而且米切尔不应该因为仅仅没有在竞争更惨烈的西部打到分区决赛就被黑。

[–]Jazz BandwagonTheeOneUp 61 指標 10小時前 

I think Mitchell would have done better on the Celtics.

爵士球迷:我觉得米切尔如果在凯尔特人的话,他能打得更好。

[–]Knickspatricknelson31 68 指標 12小時前 

It’s like stats are cancelled out. I’m excited for the future of this league now more then ever.

尼克斯球迷1:他们三个的数据看上去无差,太刺激了,我比任何时候都要期待这个联盟的未来。

[–]76ersNeodyminion 206 指標 14小時前 

Looks like stat lines that go with their position. They’ve all played well.

76人球迷1:感觉数据跟他们打的位置完美匹配。他们都打得很棒。

[–]76ersXO_WHORE_Llif3 144 指標 11小時前 

I’m surprised by this. Simmons had an awful series against Boston and I didn’t think his stats would be this impressive.

76人球迷2:看到这图我都惊呆了,西蒙斯对凯尔特人的系列赛打得稀烂,没想到他的数据还是这么好。

[–][PHI] Ben SimmonsIVAN_CLEARY 72 指標 10小時前 

Totally. He was ridiculous against Miami, held his stats up.

76人球迷3:可不嘛,对阵热火的系列赛他简直无所不能,把数据保住了。

[–]76ersgcamp512 33 指標 10小時前 

He averaged close to a triple double against Miami

76人球迷4:对阵热火的系列赛他接近场均三双啊。

[–][NYK] Cezary TrybanskiTrRa47 39 指標 8小時前* 

Ben Simmons" lack of scoring and poise in pressure moments really soured him for a lot of people. That being said, I think he"s better than what he"s getting credit for. Best passer, rebounder, very high basketball IQ, as far as defense it"s between him and Tatum, and the same level of confidence. I just don"t see how we can definitively say the other 2 are better players. I get that the game is, and has always been about, putting the ball in the basket, but Simmons brings a lot to the table IMO.

尼克斯球迷2:西蒙斯得分少+关键时刻巨大压力下隐身确实惹来了不少批评。不过,他的实际水平要比得到的评价要高。这三个人里,就防守端来说,他跟塔特姆差不多,不过西蒙斯是更好的传球手和篮板球手,篮球智商也很高。自信程度上这个人倒是一档。我懂,篮球比赛就是且一直会是为了把球搁进筐里,但在我看来西蒙斯能为比赛做出的贡献更多。

[–][SEA] Shawn Kempbennyboy82[S] 39 指標 8小時前 

People are overreacting. There’s a reason simmons got the most all star votes, all nba votes, and all defense votes out of the three.

超音速球迷:你们都反应过度了。西蒙斯在以下三个评选中都得到了最多的投票:全明星赛,最佳阵容,最佳防守阵容。这可不是没有原因的