稳如老将的塔特姆三分球比鲍尔罚球还准，安吉慧眼识珠又淘到宝稳如老将的塔特姆三分球比鲍尔罚球还准

稳如老将的塔特姆三分球比鲍尔罚球还准，安吉慧眼识珠又淘到宝！

Jayson Tatum"s 3 point percentage (51.3%) is higher than Lonzo Ball"s free throw percentage (50%)

杰森-塔特姆的三分球命中率（51.3%）高于郎佐-鲍尔的罚球命中率（50%）。[译注]

[译注]该数据统计于今天比赛之前，今天比赛塔特姆11中5，三分3中2，砍下17分+10板。

[BOS] Larry BirdI_Enjoy_Taffy於 9小時前發表

39-76 total threes for .513 for Tatum

16-32 total free throws for .500 for Lonzo

I think the most surprising thing is that Lonzo has only taken 32 free throws this year. Crazy.

塔特姆三分76投39中，命中率51.3%；

郎佐罚球32投16中，命中率50%；

在我看来最惊讶的事是郎佐今年居然只在罚球线上出手了32次。

真是疯狂。

[–]sebastianh1983 3389 指標 9小時前

Lonzo is in the 100 club, all his shooting splits added up on precisely 100.

郎佐已加入“100俱乐部”，他的三项投篮命中率加在一起刚刚好100。

[–]Nuggetsnugs4ever 942 指標 9小時前

THE SINGLER LINE!

堪比金色轰炸机数据！

[–]CelticsZiyuh 834 指標 8小時前

The Lonzone

郎佐地带。

[–]Trail BlazersCletus_Starfish 61 指標 8小時前

Wasn"t Singler actually under 100? I remember a hilarious post some time last year about that.

辛格勒的三项命中率总和难道不是低于100么？我记得去年湿乎乎就有这么一条笑死人的帖子。

[–]CelticsTheKingOfScotland 103 指標 7小時前

Singler was at 93.5 in total. (23.5/20/50) He finished at 136 though, well clear of the line. It was just a bad stretch as he"s normally 80% from the FT line.

当时辛格勒的总和是93.5（23.5/20/50），但赛季结束时提升到了136，成功达标过线。那段时间他的表现是挺糟糕的，但他在罚球线一般都能投出80%。

[–]MavericksTheCocksmith 407 指標 8小時前

How is it possible for someone who is not a center to have such a horrible FT%?

作为一名非中锋球员，郎佐怎么可能投出如此糟糕的罚球命中率？

[–]Knicks BandwagonGetLucky0G 636 指標 8小時前

Shot is broken

射姿太烂。

[–]CavaliersBirdsAndBirdies 305 指標 7小時前

His shooting form is pretty fucking weird, but its got to be more of a mental thing. Having a strong mind is a huge part of being a pro athlete, it gets overlooked a lot but it"s a necessary skill to have.

郎佐的投篮手势特么太诡异了，但我觉得这更是心态上的问题。

拥有强大的心理素质是作为一名职业运动员很重要的一部分，人们时常忽略心理素质的重要性但是这其实是一门必需掌握的技能。

[–]BballMD 512 指標 7小時前

His shooting form itself is a mental thing.

Lonzo is a lefty who"s dad tied his left arm behind his back.

Dude is fucked in the head and it shows in the shot.

Fuck everyone who circle-jerked LaVar Ball to relevancy.

他的投篮手势就是他的心态问题。

郎佐是左撇子，但是他老爸强行将他左臂绑到他背后。

郎佐的脑子已经被他爸搞乱了，从他的投篮就可以看出来。

论坛里所有吹捧有关球爹的人都给我滚一边去。

[–]redcookies 74 指標 6小時前

He is a natural lefty? Anyways that isnt all bad..look at rafaelnadal, a natural righty turned lefty and he turned out well

神马？郎佐居然是天生左撇子？好吧，但其实看看纳达尔的话，这也没啥毛病，作为一个右撇子他改成左手挥拍，结果也挺好的。

[–]Bullsbjankles 268 指標 5小時前

Nadal is one of the greatest athletes of all time. He is the exception, not the rule.

纳达尔是有史以来最出色的运动员之一。他是特例，不属常规。

[–]Raptorssinsyder2 162 指標 4小時前

That is debatable. Nadal"s FT% is lower than Balls.

楼上老哥说得还有待考证，毕竟纳达尔的罚球命中率比郎佐低，TX。

[–]appolo11 190 指標 5小時前

Uhhhh, you are comparing literally one of the most mentally strong athletes of all time with a guy who"s shooting form is a combination of Shawn Marion and a downs syndrome middle school girl, who"s dad is a narcissistic megalomaniac, and whose brother steals shit from other counties that he can just buy, because apparently he thinks he"s from south central circa 1991.

I"m going to go WAY out on a limb here and say these two people are literally two different species.

额，楼上的那位老哥，你比较的这两位一个是心理素质最好的运动员之一，另一个结合了马里昂和患了唐氏综合征的初中女学生的投篮姿势、有一个自恋狂老爸和一个明明可以买却非要跑去别的国家偷东西的弟弟（他弟以为自己是一名从1991年南加州穿越来的黑帮成员）。

我就再说明白点，两个人完完全全就是两个不同的物种。

[–]Celticszamboniman46 53 指標 7小時前

has anyone ever been in the 200 club? 50/40/90 is the gold standard, what is the highest anyone has gone?

问一句有任何人曾达到过“200俱乐部”吗？我知道50/40/90是黄金标准，但最高的是多少有人知道吗？

[–]thoughtproject 59 指標 6小時前*

I think its Steve Nash 06/07, 07/08, and 09/10 at 188.

actually scratch that, I think its Jose Calderon 08/09 at 50/41/98 so 189.

EDIT: Steve Kerr 95/96 is the highest I can find, courtesy of /u/LastFirstism

我记得是史蒂夫-纳什在06-07、07-08、09-10赛季达到过总和188。

实际上请忽略掉上面的内容，卡尔德隆在08-09赛季达到过50/41/98，总和189。

注：史蒂夫-科尔在95-96赛季是目前为止我能找到最高的了（50.6/51.5/92.9）,感谢用户名LastFirstism的JR提供的数据。

[–]Sunsmuertecaza 23 指標 3小時前

08/09 Jose Calderon is an interesting case too because he wasn"t technically a true 40/50/90 (his FG% was .497).

If you take all of the ratios to three decimal places, Nash"s 06/07 (also not a true 40/50/90 because he shot .899 FT%) is better. Nash had .532 + .455 + .899 = 1.886. Jose"s 08/09 had .497 + .406 + .981 = 1.884.

08-09赛季的卡尔德隆是个挺有意思的例子，因为实际上他的投射命中率不是标准的40/50/90（他的投篮命中率是49.7%）。

如果各位将命中率看到小数点后三位，06-07赛季的纳什（也不是标准的40/50/90，因为他的罚球是89.9%）其实更好。纳什的三项是53.2%+45.5%+89.9%=188.6%，而卡尔德隆08-09赛季的是49.7%+40.6%+98.1%=188.4%。

[–][LAL] Magic Johnsonfds_1 996 指標 9小時前

Jaysons 3-point % is actually better than his overall field goal % and that"s pretty amazing...

塔特姆的三分球命中率实际上比他的总投篮命中率还要高，太惊人了。

[–]Celticsssjgoat 321 指標 9小時前

Just the other day it was 49/48/83. I did not expect it to go up.

记得之前他还只有49/48/83，没想到现在居然又涨了。

[–]Celticsdank-nuggetz 135 指標 7小時前

He went 4/5 from 3 last night, probably bumped it up a bit

可能是因为他上一场三分5投4中帮他涨了点。

[–]SaysNotBad 223 指標 7小時前

that 1 miss was to end halftime running with 3 seconds left

他唯一投丢的那记三分是中场结束前只剩3秒时投的。

[–]Magichondo_hurricane 3003 指標 9小時前

Someone get this to Bill Simmons

来人呐，把这些数据拿给比尔-西蒙斯看看。[译注1]

[译注1]：比尔-西蒙斯，ESPN专栏作家，凯尔特人铁杆球迷。

[–]CelticsSeylliani 2145 指標 8小時前

Praising a Celtics rookie while simultaneously bashing a Lakers rookie. I"m wet.

凯尔特人球迷：这个帖在吹我凯新秀的同时还黑了一把湖人的新秀，我要高潮了。

[–]CelticsD0NTWORRIES 1166 指標 8小時前*

Okay settle down. Sure, Tatum’s playing exceptionally well for someone his age and putting in quality minutes of what so far has been one of the greatest starts to a regular season in Celtics history.

But Lonzo has guided his team to a top twelve seed in just his first year. We need to recognize accomplishments like that.

凯尔特人球迷2：好了各位冷静一下。当然，塔特姆在这个年龄来说打得太好了，上场的时间都能有很出色的贡献，甚至目前是我凯历史上开赛后能打出最好表现的新秀之一。

但是郎佐能在他的新秀年就带领球队荣登西部第十二位，这样的成就我们可不能忽略掉，TX。

[–][PHI] Joel EmbiidiFeelLikeJoJoBruh 1087 指標 7小時前

I was going to turn off the Lakers game in the 4th quarter but Lonzo was just 8 points, 9 rebounds and 7 assists away from another triple double.

我本来那天准备关掉电视上正在播放的湖人第四节比赛，但是郎佐当时距离又一次三双只差8分、9板和7次助攻了，所以我又能默默地放下了遥控器，TX。

[–]Hawksterafunker 252 指標 7小時前

That"s just the kind of edge-of-your-seat entertainment we"ve come to expect from the modern Lakers.

楼上说的就是我们一直所期待现代湖人能打出来的那种血脉喷张的时刻吧。

[–]CelticsD0NTWORRIES 251 指標 8小時前

In the spirit of fairness though, I should mention that Lonzo and the Lakers are obviously lucky they play in the Western Conference.

In the mighty East, they would only be the 14th seed.

凯尔特人球迷2：但是站在公平公正的角度来说，郎佐和湖人应该庆幸他们能在西部打球。

因为在残暴的东部，他们只能排到第十四位。

[–]CelticsMJaylen 1263 指標 9小時前

Also higher than his percentage at the rim. Lonzo is shooting 44% inside of 3 feet

塔特姆的三分命中率也比郎佐的篮下命中率高。郎佐目前在篮筐3英尺内的命中率是44%。

[–]Spursmenkeee 830 指標 8小時前

what the fuck how he"s so bad at the rim with his height advantage vs other guards

我勒个去为什么郎佐篮下这么差啊，鉴于他在对阵其他后卫的时候他的身高占优。

[–]rimgrazersbball 122 指標 8小時前

I feel like it"s basically impossible for him not to improve at the rim, he misses straight bunnies all the time. He"s bouncy too I swear he just needs to start trying to dunk everything

我猜郎佐的篮下攻一定会进步的，因为他现在已经差得不可能再差了，他经常简单的上篮都上不进。他弹跳还是不错的，我看接下来他只需要尝试用扣篮解决一切问题就行了，TX。

[–]peppermintpattymills 92 指標 7小時前

He needs a counter-move on his layups. They"re getting blocked because he"s going up straight. He needs to show the ball and then change. He doesn"t need to be as good at it as like Kyrie or anything but it"s not an uncommon basketball move at the NBA level.

他需要换个法子上篮，因为他上篮时总是向上垂直起跳，很容易被盖，他应该在上篮时先让球暴露在外，然后通过拉杆换个边上。他不需要像欧文或者其他人一样上得很花哨，但是拉杆上篮在NBA级别里并不是什么新鲜的招式。

[–]HuskiesFetyekovich 70 指標 7小時前

He has average athleticism by NBA standards. And, his fundementals are poor, taking off wrong footed that kinda thing which throws off his balence. Flooter game is bad, and he is not crafty around the rim. And, sure being 6"6 is nice, but he is not finishing over point guards. When he gets to the rim he still trying to finish around 7 footers and weakside help like everyone else.

郎佐的运动能力在NBA标准来看是属于中等的。除此之外，他的基本功很糟糕，经常用错误的脚让他自己失去平衡。他的抛投也很糟，更别说篮下的手活了。虽然1.98米的身高很不错，但是他在打对方控卫的时候就是不能完成攻篮。而且当他攻击篮筐时，他还是用同样的上篮方式在2米1几的大个子或者是从弱侧赶来的协防队员面前上篮。

[–]TimberwolvesCanadian_Mamba 534 指標 8小時前

Lonzogonna withdraw from the NBA to be home schooled pretty soon.

郎佐很快就要从NBA退学回到家里休学啦。[译注2]

[译注2]：郎佐的三弟，拉梅洛-鲍尔从高中退学在拉瓦尔-鲍尔的指导下学习。朗佐的二弟（偷东西那位）最近也从UCLA退学，准备直接选秀。

[–]Raptorsfabrar 1054 指標 9小時前

Tatum is a superstar in the making. This kid is 19, but he"s smoother, more polished and more composed than many 10 year vets in the league. He"s actually been flying under the radar a bit imo - hasn"t really had explosions like Mitchell, Lebron-comps like Simmons or growing pains like Lonzo but the kid is just super consistent night in and out.

塔特姆就是一颗冉冉上升的超级巨星。他只有19岁，但是手感顺滑，技巧出色，同时也比联盟里许多打了10年的老将更加冷静。在我看来，他最近的表现还是很低调的，不像得分爆炸的米切尔，堪比勒布朗的西蒙斯，或者球迷的痛郎佐一样，但是这小伙子打得实在是太稳了，每晚都是螺旋稳。

[–]WizardsFrancis_Picklefield 388 指標 9小時前

Maybe most impressive is the amount of threes he’s making. If you wanna succeed in today’s league you gotta hit them at a high clip and so far he’s shown he can do that more than well enough

可能最让人印象深刻的是他目前进的三分球数量。如果你想在现今的联盟里打出名堂来，你的三分球一定要准，就目前为止来看，他展现了他能做得比预期好很多。

[–]CelticsKiernanstrat 108 指標 7小時前

The rate may be impressive but the amount is pretty low still. Averaging something like 3 attempts per game.

命中率看起来是挺不错的，但是三分球投射总量还是有点低了，三分出手数跟联盟平均三分出手数应该差不多吧。

[–]WizardsFrancis_Picklefield 101 指標 7小時前

Totally true. Volume isn’t there yet. But if you’re 19 years old (?) and shooting 50%+ from three already it’s a good indicator that future performance can be as good or better

说得对，质有了但量还是不够。但如果你只有19岁而且已经能投出50%多的三分命中率，这就是一个很好的信号，未来他会成长为一个优秀甚至更加出色的球员。

[–]Celticssaratogacv60 127 指標 6小時前

Its pretty funny that 3 per game is seen as low, when Larry only average 3 or more twice his whole career.

凯尔特人球迷：他的场均3次的三分出手数看起来低？有点搞笑咯。拉里-伯德的整个职业生涯也只有两个赛季超过了3次或更多。

[–]NuggetsDyvius 73 指標 4小時前

Steph Curry broke basketball. What more can be said?

都怪史蒂芬-库里，他毁了篮球。我还有什么好说的呢？TX。

[–]CelticsMagicIsPoorMansLonzo 480 指標 9小時前

Tatum is better than Lonzo

Water is wet

凯尔特人球迷3：塔特姆比郎佐强。这不废话吗。

[–]CelticsKeeping_Secrets 121 指標 8小時前*

I"m already trusting him more than Jaylen. I just wish Jayson got the ball more. I feel like he touches it once every 5 possessions and usually just passes as soon as it comes to him. He was 4-4 from 3 in the first half (not counting half court shot the end the half) and didn"t try another one for the rest of the game and only one more drive to the bucket in the entire second half.

凯尔特人球迷4：相比杰伦-布朗来说，我现在更加信任塔特姆了。我希望塔特姆能多触球，我感觉每次大概打五个回合他才能碰到一次球，然后他就立马传给别人了。上一场他上半场三分4中4（没有算中场结束前的那一球），然后整个下半场都没有再尝试三分出手，而且只有一次运球往篮下攻。

[–]Lakerssheeeeeez 140 指標 8小時前

His advanced stats are better than this guy at the same age:

塔特姆：效率值17.4；真实命中率64.9%；胜利贡献值3.1；防守正负值2.0；正负值3.3；替代值1.0。I honestly thought it was a mistake to trade out of drafting Fultz and was iffy about Duke players recently but Ainge is making everyone eat their words.

他的高阶数据比杜兰特19岁的时候还要好：

杜兰特：效率值15.8；真实命中率51.9%；胜利贡献值2.3；防守正负值-0.7；正负值-1.4；替代值0.4。

基础数据：

杜兰特：场均上场时间34.6；场均投篮17.1中7.3；命中率43.0%；场均得分20.3；场均篮板4.4；场均助攻2.4；场均抢断1.0；场均盖帽0.9。

塔特姆：场均上场时间30.4；场均投篮9.1中4.6；命中率51.1%；场均得分13.9；场均篮板5.3；场均助攻1.4；场均抢断1.0；场均盖帽0.8。

我当时真的觉得凯尔特人交易掉了选择富尔茨的机会是一个错误，而且我最近也很怀疑杜克球员的能力，但是安吉的操作的确是让所有人都闭嘴了。

[–]Celticssumitode 284 指標 8小時前

Tbf, KD"s %s were less because he was the #1 option on a trash team instead of the #3 on a good one

Hell, he was taking almost twice as many shots as Tatum

说句实话，KD当时的命中率这么低是因为他在一支辣鸡队里面做着大当家的角色，而不是像塔特姆一样在一支优秀的球队做着球队的第三选择。

而且我去了，他当时候投的差不多有塔特姆的两倍那么多。

[–]Celticssemipalmated_plover 55 指標 6小時前

KD also weighed like only 47 pounds his rookie yr. it"s honestly impressive he could hoist 17 shots/gm

而且KD在新秀赛季的时候瘦的跟真跟竹竿一样，说实话他能有力气抬手投17次我都觉得很了不起了，TX。

[–]deej363 16 指標 5小時前

Literally unable to do the bench press at the combine.

说实话他当时在联合试训时连卧推都做不了。

[–]ThunderThunderMethTiger 122 指標 8小時前

Fuck KD and all, but Tatum is feasting in part because he"s a cog in a well oiled machine. When KD was a rookie he was out there with Robert Swift and Luke "Got traded 5 times in a day" Ridnour.

Can"t play with those cats.

雷霆球迷：去他的KD，但是有一说一，塔特姆的确是在一支优秀球队里扮演着角色球员。当KD还是新秀时，队友都是罗伯特-斯威夫特和卢克-一天被交易5次-里德诺等等之流啊。

跟这些阿猫阿狗可赢不了球啊。