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Here is how Steph Curry attacking off the ball

来看看斯蒂芬-库里是如何无球进攻的。

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[–][NYK] Marcus CambyD0minican 1270 指標 19小時前

this is the content this sub needs

这种帖子才是湿乎乎真正需要的。

[–]Trail Blazersfreddyjasonmyer 926 指標 14小時前

Dunno. I kind of like calling every rookie ever a bust and debating MVP awards after 5 games have been played.

老哥这可不好说，我还是挺喜欢把每一位新秀都称之为水货，或者是在赛季进行了五场之后开始跟别人争论谁会是今年的MVP。

[–][GSW] Draymond GreenMacDerfus 163 指標 13小時前

Those are more like the fertilizer that allows quality stuff to grow.

你说的那些更像是能让精华帖茁壮成长的肥料吧。

[–]Warriorsfrog_wiz 19 指標 9小時前

No I think we need more ‘x’ has more ‘y’ than any other ‘z’ before when ‘q’ is also ‘r-ing’ since 1984.

不不不，我觉得我们真正需要的是这类的数据帖：“A球员是自1984年B球员之后，第一位能得到X分、Y板、Z助攻、Q抢断、R盖帽的球员。”tx

[–]narmerguy 13 指標 9小時前

Literally the worst trend in sports analytics. These things started out interesting, but they"ve just become nauseating. Just say he had a good game, you can create meaningless combinations of random stats.

这些数据简直就是体育分析界最糟糕的流行趋势，本来一开始还挺有意思的，之后就越来越让人恶心，除了吹捧这名球员打了一场好球之外毫无意义，你可以用任意的数据来排出一些没有任何意义的数据组合。

[–][LAL] Magic Johnsonfds_1 367 指標 18小時前

God watching GS run these plays really makes you see what monster they are. Reminds of that Open Court GM thing they had and Bob Myers said:"Well in today"s NBA you have teams that have like 3-4 or stars" and everybody else started laughing and said:"Only your team has 4 stars."

我天，看着勇士跑这些战术，感觉他们就是一群怪物。这让我想起那一集Open Court的总经理特辑，勇士总经理鲍勃-迈尔斯说：“在今天的NBA联盟里，有很多球队都有3-4名明星球员。”然后其他的总经理就开始大笑并回应他：“只有你的球队有4名明星球员。”

[–]Lakersflaminglips 244 指標 14小時前

It"s actually crazy to think to about. You have possibly the second best shooter of all time setting off-ball picks for the best shooter of all time. The guy making the pass? One of the best shooters of all time.

想想就觉得挺疯狂的，你有着可能成为历史第二佳的射手在帮历史最佳射手做无球挡拆。而且帮他们传球的那个人？也是历史最佳射手之一啊。

[–][ATL] Rasheed WallaceFalconsHawksBulldogs 139 指標 11小時前

They have three top 10 shooters ever on their team, plus a dude with DPOY defense and great playmaking on offense.

勇士有着三位历史前十的投手，加上一位在进攻中能组织、防守属于最佳防守球员水平的家伙。

[–][BOS] John HavlicekGekthegecko 142 指標 11小時前

And then there"s Zaza.

千呼万唤始出来：还有扎扎。

[–]WarriorsRaginReaganomics 66 指標 10小時前

GOAT

勇士球迷：史上最佳球员。

[–]TimberwolvesSincSohum 662 指標 15小時前

Lol at all the media members who said that steph had ruined the game at the youth level. Forget that he does literally everything right on and off the court such as being unselfish, great movement off ball, terrific handles, being a great teammate, etc. All they tend to focus on his is unlimited range(which is also nothing but a product of his work ethic) and how kids see that and want to replicate it. If I was a youth level coach I would try to show them as much footage of steph as I possibly could. Yea sure you probably won"t be able to replicate his range, but you could work on and learn from pretty much everything else he does and instantly improve your game.

那些说库里毁了青少年篮球的媒体成员们简直笑掉我大牙，他们忘记了库里在球场上和球场外所做的一切都是那么的正确：无私、优秀的无球跑动、极佳的运球、做一名优秀的队友等等。这些媒体只关注他的无限射程（这仅仅是库里极佳的职业态度所赋予他的技能），还说现在的孩子都争相去模仿这种打法。如果我是青少年水平的篮球教练，我肯定会尽可能地给这些孩子们看库里的比赛录像。没错你可能没法复制模仿库里的射程，但是你可以从他所做的其它事情上训练、学习并持续地提升自己的水平。

[–]Bullswhothark_futhark 300 指標 12小時前

I enjoy seeing genetic freaks of nature like Antetokounmpo, Durant, and LeBron as much as any NBA fan. But the fact that Curry is a relatively normally proportioned human makes him really fun to watch and a good role model for aspiring players. You can"t learn Durant"s size but if you practice you can have Curry"s conditioning, handles, and vision.

我就和所有NBA球迷一样喜欢看像字母哥，KD，勒布朗那些天生身体素质变态的狂人打球，但是库里作为一位身体尺寸相对接近凡人的球员，看他打球非常有意思，同时他也是一个非常好的榜样，激励着很多球员。你没法学习到KD的体型，但如果你努力训练你会像库里一样有那么好的状态、运球和视野。

[–]NBAnbuddha 146 指標 12小時前

Im not disagreeing with you, but it is crazy how Curry seems like he"s a regular-sized dude because he"s in the context of NBA court most of the time.

Like that David Blaine video from the other day - Drake, Blaine etc. could"ve taken a Curry shoulder right in the nose. Dude"s 6"3 - he"s pushing half a foot of height on most males from countries where the average height is ~5"9/10.

Again, I"m not trying to be pedantic - youre totally right that you can get Curry-type skills in a much more realistic way than Bron or Durant ones, regardless of your size, but it just constantly blows my mind how skewed my perception of physical size gets watching basketball.

我不是跟楼上唱反调啊，但是库里看起来不大只是跟NBA球员比。

就像那天看到大卫-布莱恩（一位魔术师）的视频：Drake和布莱恩等人的鼻子只能差不多到库里肩膀的位置。库里可是有1米93的啊，比很多国家男性平均身高1米75到1米78还高出了10多厘米。

再者，我并不是想卖弄自己的学问。是，不论你的身高体重如何，比起勒布朗和KD的技术，你更有可能获得和库里一般的技术，但是劲爆的身体素质总是能让我眼前一亮，我看篮球，还是比较倾向于身体。

[–]Warriorsstephtreyaxone 34 指標 11小時前

He’s 6’2 without shoes, making him 3 inches taller than the average man. Obviously he probably wouldn’t be in the nba if he wasn’t athletically gifted, but he’s closer in size to an average dude than to an nba freak

库里裸足1米88，比男性的平均身高高了8厘米。很明显如果不是库里有什么运动天赋的话，他是不会打进NBA的，但相比于一位NBA身体狂人，他的身体尺寸还是更接近一名平均身高的男性。

[–]NBAnbuddha 28 指標 11小時前

Well, if you live in a land of giants where the average height is 5"11! I come from various corners of Europe where it"s more like 9 or 10.

额，如果你生活在一个平均身高是1米8的巨人国的话没错，库里是比平均身高高8厘米。但是我去过欧洲各地，那里的平均身高是1米75到1米78。

[–]Warriorsstephtreyaxone 18 指標 11小時前

Ok, so four inches then. You see people as tall as Curry every day

层主：行，那就是高了差不多10厘米呗。不过你几乎每天都能看到跟库里个子差不多的男性。

[–]NBAnbuddha 23 指標 10小時前

Normally, yeah, but they"re still tall people is my point.

And that"s if average height data (notoriously dicey if memory serves) is standardised w/o shoes - is it as rigorous as combine measurements?

We should ask KD and his ilk...

通常来说，是的，但我的重点是像库里那样的人还是很高啊。

而且那是得在平均身高的数据（如果光是根据记忆来说的话那就太不严谨了）标准为裸足的情况下：这个数据会跟联合试训时测出来一样那么严格吗？

我们还是应该问问KD他们…

[–]76ersmeditate42 18 指標 9小時前

For sure, my tallest friends are 6"3 and 6"4. They both play center when we play pick up games, and they have both been assigned as centers their whole very casual basketball "careers". Steph is that height and he is a little guy and plays point. Its pretty funny.

是挺高的，我最高的两个朋友分别是1米92和1米95，打野球的时候他俩就是中锋，在他们随意的篮球“生涯”中，他们也被拉去打中锋。库里差不多就这么高，你说他身高小，可是他打控卫啊，挺有意思的。

[–]Warriorsthrowaway_FTH_ 46 指標 14小時前

True that. I imagine if you got a youth team to learn how to move offball, maybe even how to switch on defense, they"d fucking dominate.

如果你在执教一支青少年队，教他们怎么无球跑动，甚至是学会在防守中换防，那看库里的比赛录像肯定没错，这些孩子会统治球场的。

[–]CelticsTacoTweets 49 指標 11小時前

I absolutely love Steph but I think the reason people think he"s hindered the game at a youth level is because he takes shots that are objectively bad shots for 99.9% of the basketball population and is able to make them.

Also, kids aren"t paying attention to Curry off ball. They"re watching him with the ball, which is obviously beautiful, but sometimes he chucks up contested 25+ footers and they go in. Then they"re highlights and the next thing you know your entire group of 11 year olds are taking pull up 3s with wide open people on the court.

It"s not a myth.

Things I notice coaching middle schoolers.

我爱死库里了，但仔细想想人们说库里阻碍了青少年篮球的发展，应该是因为库里的出手选择客观来说在99.9%的篮球大众眼中都是糟糕的，但他还是能投中。

而且孩子们都没有留意库里的无球，他们看他华丽地持球攻，但有时他直接就干拔25英尺外的三分而且还进了。之后这些逆天三分就放到了高光集锦里面，你所知道的下一件事就是所有的11岁孩子都在扔三分，就算没人防也一样。

这并不是一个传说，我在执教中学生球队时我就观察到了这些事。

[–]WarriorsLavinesanity 121 指標 14小時前

This video is an undersell

Curry is in constant motion offball and you can show full shotclock possessions where he never stops moving but never even ends up touching the ball

这个视频被人们忽略了。

库里总是在积极地无球跑动而且如果你拿整个24秒的回合出来看他也在一直无球跑动，甚至有时候球都到不了他手里他也一直在跑。

[–]BullsTTBOYTT 31 指標 10小時前

This, combined with his insane gravity, is the reason why he"s a top 3 player today. Defenses are so scared that even if the warriors didn"t have the offense they have right now, he can basically just run around the whole damn court, and they would still have to respect him off ball just because of his shot.

However, since you guys are the Warriors, we have the team we have today. God dammit lol

公牛球迷：优秀的无球跑动，加上他疯狂般的库有引力，就是他为什么是如今联盟前三的球员。

就算勇士没有他们现在的进攻火力，其它球队的防守端也会瑟瑟发抖，因为库里基本上就全场满世界跑，对方的防守还是会因为库里的投篮而给予他无球跑动足够的“照顾”。

不过，你们是勇士，而我牛现在烂成这样...没有比较就没有伤害啊。

[–]Spurspikameow2 303 指標 17小時前

meanwhile westbrook is still waiting for the ball to come back.

而威少还是依旧站着在等球传回来呢，TX。[译注1]

[译注1]此前国外教练做了一个分析视频，详解威少不爱无球跑动，过了半场传出去球之后就站在那里等着球回到自己手里。

[–]Cavalierswooha 83 指標 13小時前

I get that it’s a joke right now but there’s truth in this. Westbrook needs to allow PG to make some decisions and WB needs to move to get into posistion to score.

我知道威少现在这个毛病真的跟笑话一样离谱，但是真的应该改啊。威少需要让乔治来做场上的决策，自己去跑空位来得分。

[–][OKC] Russell Westbrookredblade13 2 指標 4小時前

Imagine how fucking deadly Westbrook would be as a cutter with his speed? Dude would be dunking on people off cuts and shit. I"ve seen the few times he has cut he puts the hammer down with all the momentum he gets. He could be the equivalent of Curry"s perimeter off ball movement in terms of slashing. Love Westbrook but he can improve in so many ways.

想想看以威少的速度来做无球切入那该有多毁天灭地啊，切完拿球就隔人暴扣。有几次我看他切进去，他的速度拿起球来就是一顿势大力沉的暴扣。他作为无球切入者的威力会跟库里外线无球跑动有得一拼。我很爱威少但是他还需在很多方面去提高。

[–]crunchtime89 310 指標 19小時前*

This is why Draymond Green helped turn the Warriors around. Credit to Steve Kerr because he featured Draymond alot more in the rotation. He used Draymond as the point forward to help take pressure off of Curry to be the scorer and playmaker. It was very intelligent of Kerr to put Curry in more scoring positions rather than decision making ones. Draymond has been the engine for the Warriors, he"s their point forward defensive anchor. With the addition of KD, it only makes it that more unstoppable of an offense when both of your forwards are keeping their heads up to supply the guards shots.

这就是为什么格林帮助勇士咸鱼翻身。我为科尔打call因为他让格林更多的融入到轮换中，让格林打控锋去分担库里同时作为得分手和组织者的压力。科尔让库里去打得分手而不是负责组织决策的任务实在是太机智了。格林就是勇士的发动机，既是控锋，又是防守大闸。再加上KD，同时有两位前锋在进攻中时刻抬头传球给后卫，让他们的进攻更加无法阻挡。

Before I have someone get offended from a fact that I"ve stated, as if it disrespects Curry, please go and see this interesting mathematical formula. The more mins Draymond got, the more wins the Warriors had. When he was featured more, after Mark Jackson left, the Warriors rapidly became a contender. They needed a guy that could get Curry and Thompson going, they are the best scorers on the team.

Why would you want your best scorer, Curry, passing to guys that are less capable? When you throw in the elite switch-defending to help everyones errors on defense, it only proves how much Draymond was needed to help propel the Warriors forward.

在你们有人因为我的言论而觉得我不尊重库里并且喷我之前，请看看这条有趣的数学公式：格林的上场时间越长，勇士的胜场越多。当格林在马克-杰克逊离开后被推上台面，勇士迅速成为了总冠军的有力争夺者。勇士需要一位能解放队中两位最佳得分手库里和汤普森的球员。

为什么你会想让你的最佳得分手库里去传球给得分能力没他那么优秀的球员呢？当你排出一套顶级的换防阵容来帮助所有球员减少防守错误的时候，恰好证明了勇士是有多么需要格林去助推这支勇士队前进。

[–]patterswong 91 指標 19小時前

Coming from a warriors fans, I agree Draymond is a great passer who can help initiate the offense from the high post and low post. It also helps prevent a stagnant offense while keeping the defense honest. While mark Jackson was a key to the Warriors turnaround by instilling an defense identity, he couldn"t coach offense for shit with his iso heavy system. Kerr with his motion triangle hybrid too take of the offense struggles and Draymond with his versatility makes it all work. Also while you have one of the greatest if not greatest shooter ever, it"s easier to come off picks and shoot rather than take the D off the dribble every time

一位勇士球迷说的：我同意格林是一位优秀的传球手，能帮助球队从高位或者低位发起进攻，同时还能防止球队的进攻停滞，又能保证防守质量。马克-杰克逊虽然是帮助勇士翻身的关键，为勇士队中注入了防守的理念，但是进攻方面他就很菜了，只会疯狂单打的体系。科尔继承了三角战术跑动理念，帮助勇士解决了进攻上的挣扎，而且格林的全面性实现了这套理念。同时，当你有着若不是历史第一那就是历史最佳之一的射手，通过挡拆接球投篮就比拉开单打更加轻松了。

[–]crunchtime89 44 指標 19小時前

Exactly. I didnt mean to diss Jackson, he got the Warriors out of the pit of misery, but Kerr perfected what Jackson could not. Jackson had Draymond as an energy guy, Kerr had Draymond as the backbone

说的没错，我并不是想喷杰克逊，毕竟他让勇士从烂坑里爬了出来，但科尔做到了杰克逊不能做到的，完美升华了这支勇士队。杰克逊把格林当成一个能量十足的家伙，但科尔把格林当成了核心骨。