魔术因小失大错失邓肯,美JRs:让你飞机上建宠物乐园也得答应
魔术因小失大错失邓肯,美JRs:让你在飞机上建宠物乐园你也得答应呀
Grant Hill confirms the story about why Orlando didn"t get Tim Duncan
格兰特-希尔证实了有关魔术与邓肯失之交臂的原因的故事。
视频链接:希尔谈2000年邓肯与魔术会面的小故事>>
http://t.cn/RRnjxmZ
希尔称,球队与邓肯会晤的那个晚餐他当时在场,时任主帅道格-里弗斯拒绝了有关邓肯亲属乘坐球队专机随行的要求,之后整个饭桌的氛围就变了。希尔的妻子后来称,“你们应该撒个谎啊”。
[–]MavericksDark-Cuban[S] 431 指標 6小時前
Tmac is disgusted
麦迪一口盐汽水就在嘴边儿了都。
[–]Wizardsmakeouthill2040 50 指標 5小時前
I don"t get it
奇才球迷:我不懂。
[–]76ersiPoopAtChu 241 指標 5小時前
TMac"s prime was in Orlando.
麦迪的巅峰期在奥兰多呀。
[–]Wizardsmakeouthill2040 54 指標 5小時前
No I don"t get the video. Why didn"t Duncan want to go to Orlando
奇才球迷:不不不,我是说,我没懂视频中内容的意思。为什么当初邓肯不想去魔术啊?
[–]JazzDeathBySuplex 257 指標 5小時前
Doc wouldn"t let Duncan"s girl fly on the team plane so Duncan stayed a Spur.
魔术时任主帅道格-里弗斯没让邓肯当时的女友乘坐球队专机,所以邓肯就留在马刺了。
[–]Jazzwoonbarak 242 指標 5小時前
In hindsight that was probably the best for Duncan himself.
事后看来,这可能是对邓肯他自己而言最好的选择。
[–]Knicks BandwagonBushyBrowz 24 指標 1小時前
Well we don"t know. He could 3peated in Orlando, then returned to SA and won more. Lol we have no idea what could have been.
额,谁知道是不是呢?他可能在奥兰多拿下3连冠,然后回到圣安东尼奥,再拿下更多总冠军。哈哈,世事怎预料,凡人难洞悉。
[–]Timberwolvesemuwarvet[??] 982 指標 6小時前
You can see T-Mac"s soul leave his body
你能看到视频里麦迪气的都灵魂出窍了。
[–]theclownermb 519 指標 6小時前
that wouldve been fucking disgusting, prime tmac and duncan
我不能接受!巅峰麦迪和巅峰邓肯呀!
[–]MavericksDark-Cuban[S] 477 指標 6小時前
Prime tmac and Duncan vs Kobe and Shaq in the finals >>>
总决赛上演巅峰麦邓对阵鲨科,画面太美啊!
[–]LakersX-Craft 518 指標 5小時前
Another epic finals matchup ruined by the Orlando Magic
湖人球迷:又一组史诗级的总决赛对阵被奥兰多魔术队给毁了。
[–]RocketsSJA_YNWA 102 指標 3小時前
Thanks, Magic.
魔术,我谢谢你八辈儿祖宗啊。
[–]NBAtuberippin 67 指標 5小時前
Doc Rivers robbed me of this in my childhood. Motherfuck, that would"ve been so much more satisfying than those Lakers-Pacers, Lakers-Iverson, and Lakers-Jason Kidd series in the early 00s.
道格-里弗斯让我在童年失去了看到麦迪石佛联手的机会。丢雷老谋!要是那样的话,21世纪初,湖人魔术的对决,可远比什么湖人对步行者啊,湖人战艾弗森,还有湖人打杰森-基德的系列赛戏码要更让球迷感到满足呀。
[–]theclownermb 44 指標 6小時前
wouldnt the magic have also had the first pick in the draft and still get howard?
而且魔术是不是也一样能拿到状元签,照样可以抽到霍华德?
[–]Ktron3030 174 指標 5小時前
Dwight was 14 that summer.
老哥,霍华德那年夏天14岁...
[–]NBAMintastic 175 指標 5小時前
[–]MagicMantisTobogginMD 79 指標 5小時前
[–]Ktron3030 15 指標 6小時前*
I don"t think we were in a position to get T-Mac, Grant and Duncan that year. I think Tracy was the fallback option since we whiffed on Duncan.
*unless Tracy took less money.
我不觉得那年我们能同时得到麦迪,格兰特-希尔和邓肯。我认为麦迪是我们没能得到邓肯之后的后手。
*除非麦迪降薪少拿些薪水。
[–]WildYams 50 指標 5小時前
Wrong, I remember it distinctly, the Magic had the cap space to sign all three guys, and would have, if not for Duncan and this weird thing about the private jet.
不是这样的。我清楚地记得,当时魔术有足够的薪金空间把他们仨全部签下,要不是因为邓肯和这件跟私人飞机有关的怪事儿,这三巨头可就成了呀。
[–]Ktron3030 16 指標 5小時前
I don"t think that"s right. We had $18 million in cap room that summer.
http://a.espncdn.com/nba/draft00/s/2000/0628/609326.html
Now, they"ve added an exciting young player in Miller and have $18 million in salary cap room -- making Orlando one of two teams able to sign two free agents to maximum allowable contracts that would pay $9 million in the first year.
不不不,你说的不对。那年夏天我们只有1800万美元的空间。
新闻链接:魔术向邓肯、格兰特-希尔抛出橄榄枝>>
http://a.espncdn.com/nba/draft00/s/2000/0628/609326.html
引文:
“现在,魔术补充了一名令人兴奋的年轻球员迈克-米勒,并拥有1800万美元的薪金空间——这让魔术能向2名自由球员提供价值第1年起薪为900万美元的顶薪合同,联盟中只有2支球队有这种条件。”
Tim, Grant and Tracy each signed $9 million dollar max contracts that year:
http://www.eskimo.com/~pbender/misc/salaries01.txt
Rod Strickland (Was) ........ $10,000,000
Tim Duncan (SA) ............. $9,660,000
Grant Hill (Orl) ............ $9,660,000
Tracy McGrady (Orl) ......... $9,660,000
Jalen Rose (Ind) ............ $9,660,000
邓肯、希尔还有麦迪,他们每个人那年都签下了起薪900万美元的顶薪合同:
链接:2000-01赛季NBA薪资信息>>
http://www.eskimo.com/~pbender/misc/salaries01.txt
引文:
“罗德-斯特里克兰(奇才) ........ $10,000,000
蒂姆-邓肯(马刺) ............. $9,660,000
格兰特-希尔(魔术) ............ $9,660,000
特雷西-麦克格雷迪(魔术) ......... $9,660,000
杰伦-罗斯(步行者) ............ $9,660,000”
[–]Wizardsspekkke 50 指標 4小時前
lol @ 9mil max"s compared to now
噗,900万美元的顶薪合同?!你再跟现在比比。
[–]HornetsKeepItRealTV 23 指標 3小時前
Think about this, everyone likes to talk about Jordan"s $30 million salary with the Bulls but Jordan only averaged about $6 million for his NBA salary. The years before his $30 million contracts, he never made more than $4 million from the Bulls. He made his fortune from selling sneakers.
黄蜂球迷:想想看,人人都喜欢讨论乔丹在公牛时3000万美元的薪水,可他在NBA拿到的平均年薪只有大概600万美元。在3000万美元的合同之前,他的年薪从没大于过400万美元。乔丹是靠运动鞋的销售积累起来的财富。
[–][TOR] Tracy McGradyWelfare_Mom 8 指標 4小時前
That"s rude as hell
拒绝让他的家人乘球队专机?这也太无礼了吧。
[–]PlanesBlade 59 指標 4小時前
I think it was/is more normal than you might assume. Lots of the time, team planes are only for players and staff
我觉得无论是当时,还是现在,这种做法都比你想象的要正常吧。很多时候,球队专机只允许球员和球队工作人员乘坐。
[–][BOS] Paul PierceDaLyricalMiracleWhip 35 指標 3小時前
I was gonna say, in what other profession is it expected for a company to ferry around their employees" significant others?
凯尔特人球迷:我刚想说这个呢,在其它行业里,你会要求一个公司用飞机接送公司雇员的亲属么?
[–]askingaquestion142 33 指標 3小時前
i"m a huge spurs fan, and i was a little surprised by reddits reaction to this. i was more embarrassed that Duncan wanted to be treated differently (which is out of character)
我是名忠实的马刺球迷,我很惊讶Reddit对这件事会是这样的反应。更让我尴尬的是,邓肯居然想要被区别对待,享有特权(这跟他的性格不符啊)。
[–]Senseisntsocommon 25 指標 6小時前
That"s why you say hey we can charter a private jet as needed. Total cost for doing that for 41 games is at most a couple million.
这时候就该回答,嗯,如果有需要的话,我们可以租一架私人飞机给你。这事儿41场客场比赛下来最多也就花几百万美元。
[–]Lakersrebeltrillionaire 40 指標 6小時前
Literally cost the owner possibly a billion in revenue + valuation for a $1M expense per year. #ThanksDoc
湖人球迷:就因为这每年100万美元的开销,反倒让球队老板在收益和估值上损失了可能有10亿美元。#谢谢里弗斯
[–][GSW] Kelenna Azubuikegetsituated 149 指標 6小時前
Damn. Tmac"s reaction is almost heartbreaking
我去。麦迪的反应太让人心碎了。
[–][ORL] Reggie TheusTkinzel517 598 指標 6小時前
I have never hated Doc Rivers more in my life
魔术球迷:我这辈子从没有这么恨过道格-里弗斯。
[–]Magicwassup-dawg 100 指標 6小時前
my heart hurts
魔术球迷:我这个心啊,哇凉哇凉的!
[–]Ktron3030 74 指標 5小時前
We would have wasted Duncan anyways. It would have been him, Darrell Armstrong, Ewing, Mike Miller, Horace Grant, and Pat Garrity waiting for Grant Hill to get healthy.
Tracy would have ended up in Miami with Alonzo Mourning.
好啦,反正我们得到邓肯也会浪费掉他的。那时就成了他,达雷尔-阿姆斯特朗,尤因,迈克-米勒,霍勒斯-格兰特还有帕特-加里蒂等着格兰特-希尔康复的《非常6+1》呀。
麦迪呢则会前往迈阿密与阿朗佐-莫宁搭档。
[–]PistonsJaerba 18 指標 4小時前
I mean, you could"ve had Duncan next to Ben.
活塞球迷:我想说,你们本来能组成邓肯和本-华莱士的双塔组合啊。
[–]Warriorskris_takahashi 18 指標 3小時前
At the time though, no one really figured Hill would miss as much time as he did.
In 2000 if you asked 100 people who would you rather have, Grant Hill or Tracy McGrady, probably 99 would say Hill and only if #100 was Tracy"s mother.
Same goes for Big Ben, no one really knew, whereas Grant Hill was a surefire Hall of Famer in his prime.
不过那时候没人知道希尔会缺席那么长时间。
2000年的时候,要是你问100个人他们,希尔和麦迪两个人里更想要谁的话,可能有99个人会选择希尔,而那第100个人,还是麦迪他妈妈。
大本也是同理,没人能猜到他会达到那种高度,但希尔在巅峰时期那绝对是名人堂级别的球员啊。
[–]Cooljo 33 指標 5小時前
But that was never stated as being the main reason why Duncan to Orlando didn"t happen. Bowen never said that either.
I find it very hard to believe he was all ready to go to Orlando but said screw it after Doc said no.
但是从来都没人说过乘坐专机这事儿是邓肯与魔术擦肩而过的主要原因啊。布鲁斯-鲍文也从没这么说过。
我很难相信邓肯都准备加盟魔术了,但是在里弗斯拒绝了这一点后这事儿就吹了。
[–][ORL] Scott Skilessubutaime 34 指標 5小時前
The widely reported rumor here at the time was that Tim"s wife didnt like Orlando and DRob made a last minute pitch.
魔术球迷:当时流传甚广的说法是,邓肯加盟魔术流产是因为邓肯的妻子不喜欢奥兰多+上将最后时刻力挽狂澜。
[–]Pelicanserldn123 428 指標 6小時前
Doc should get his ring stripped for that lol
What on earth was he thinking.
就冲这事儿,里弗斯就应该被剥夺总冠军戒指。
他当时究竟琢磨啥呢。
[–]Wizardslivefreeordont 29 指標 6小時前
Don"t let a player hijack your front office probably. Made the wrong call obviously
可能是觉得不能让一名球员凌驾于管理层之上吧。很明显里弗斯做出了错误的决定。
[–][OKC] Russell WestbrookAnti_Thon 230 指標 6小時前
He shoulda lied definitely but it was probably Tim"s wife/girlfriend that asked... Grant Hill thought he was slick saying entourage
里弗斯真的应该撒个小谎搪塞过去完了,但是这可能是邓肯的妻子(或者说女友吧)提的要求吧……格兰特-希尔在视频里说是邓肯的“伙伴”,哈哈他还觉得自己挺机智避开了雷呢。
[–]Spurslaststance 29 指標 4小時前
100% TD"s wife asked the question. If this article is true, she wanted to have a death grip on TD.
http://deadspin.com/tim-duncan-is-in-the-middle-of-a-remarkably-messy-divor-510172889
Supposedly she cheated on TD which triggered the divorce proceedings. I guess cheaters are afraid of their SO cheating on them?
马刺球迷:这绝对是邓肯的妻子提的。要是这篇文章的内容不假,那他的妻子是想完全控制住邓肯的。
新闻链接:蒂姆-邓肯正经历着非常混乱的离婚纠纷>>
据说她对邓肯有所不忠,并因此引发了他们二人之间的离婚诉讼。这可能就是潘金莲怕武大郎被出轨?
[–]Pelicanserldn123 157 指標 6小時前
You definitely lie until he signs on that dotted line.
Such a small ask aswell to cost the GOAT PF.....
是不是傻,你在他签合同之前一定得连哄带骗啊。
就这么一点小要求,结果丢了史上最佳的大前锋啊……
[–]Knicksshy247er 112 指標 6小時前*
Shit, for Duncan you rent a private jet to fly her around, as long as he signs the contract.
我勒个去,只要邓肯能在合同上签字,为了他,租架私人飞机让她女友坐都值啊。
[–]cowincanada 20 指標 4小時前
i think thats also why Td"s not with that person anymore. to ask that was so anti-TD
我觉得这也是邓肯和她分道扬镳的原因所在——这样的要求实在是太不邓肯了。
[–]HeatCaveman_Z 52 指標 4小時前
She also cheated
绿帽也是原因啊...
[–]UltimateZ906 24 指標 3小時前
Who in their right mind would cheat on Tim fucking Duncan
有哪个脑子正常的人会对邓肯不忠啊。
[–]RocketsRiskRegsiter 27 指標 3小時前
Someone who needs more flair that fundamentals
不是人人都有领悟基本功的慧根的,她可能更喜欢天赋禀异那款?
[–]SpursAsnSensation 145 指標 6小時前*
First all his injuries and now this story haha. Tmac probably the unluckiest player to have been denied a ring.
A few seconds later Paul Pierce says that when Doc came to Boston he told KG that his family would be able to travel on the plane LMAO
马刺球迷:哈哈,先是他遭受的伤病,现在又是这个故事,麦迪可能是没捞到戒指的球员里最倒霉的。
后来保罗-皮尔斯说,里弗斯来波士顿时告诉加内特,说加内特的家人可以乘坐球队专机出行,噗哈哈哈哈真是笑死我了。
[–]Rocketsbobbydinner 173 指標 6小時前
My heart breaks for TMac. Even if Grant still has his injury issues in Orlando, TMac probably gets a ring or at least gets to compete for one with Duncan there with him. Damn man.
火箭球迷:真为麦迪感到心碎。哪怕希尔在魔术遭受伤病的困扰,麦迪依旧曾有可能得到一枚戒指,或者至少能有机会和邓肯联手去冲击一次总冠军啊。
造化弄人啊。
[–]RocketsHwangdda 44 指標 5小時前
They probably make the finals for sure. The East was hot trash in the early aughts. Would they have won? Hell no-- especially with the likes of Pat Garrity being one of their better offensive options.
火箭球迷:他们二人打进总决赛基本没什么问题。东部早些年竞争压力不大。不过他们能拿总冠军么?当然没戏。连帕特-加里蒂这号人物都算球队不错的进攻选择,你说有戏么。
[–]HornetsHamburglarBunz 80 指標 5小時前*
I"m sorry Magic fans. Doc Rivers is a moron, if Tim Duncan wants to install a petting zoo on your plane, you let him do it, let alone his wife and kids.
真为魔术球迷感到遗憾。里弗斯就是个白痴,哪怕邓肯想在飞机上建一个宠物乐园你都得答应啊,更别提带着他的妻儿了。
[–]Westbelieveinbenning 68 指標 6小時前
damn how many franchises has he fucked over lol
唉,里弗斯搞砸过多少球队啊。
[–]Hawksdaeve 23 指標 4小時前
Just wait til his grandson needs a max contract
这算啥,你等小小里弗斯拿到顶薪合同的。
[–]Hoops_Junkie2 50 指標 6小時前
It"s funny how these guys get praised as super loyal when he had a foot out the door. Kobe also was so close to being a Bull.
太逗了,这些球员因为无比忠诚而备受赞誉,但都曾险些离开球队。科比也曾无比接近加盟公牛呢。
[–]CavaliersAyuhno 89 指標 6小時前*
Kobe literally demanded a trade lol
Funny how "loyalty" works
(No shade at Kobe btw, he was wasting some of the best years of his career while the organization gave him fucking Smush Parker...)
科比是正八经地要求湖人交易过自己。
“忠诚”这个词儿,真值得玩味啊。
(话说回来,我也不是黑科比,球队给他配备的是斯马什-帕克这种货色,他职业生涯最好的那段时光中的几年都浪费掉了……)
[–][GSW] Kelenna Azubuikegetsituated 29 指標 6小時前
Luol Deng was almost a Laker!
wait..
当时洛尔-邓差点儿就加盟湖人啦!
诶,等会儿……
[–]Lakersram0h 13 指標 5小時前
it is kind of the same as what bron does when it comes to FA and im all for it. They are using their leverage to make sure FOs dont sit on their tush and let these stars waste their prime
湖人球迷:这有点儿像詹姆斯成为自由球员时的那些举动,而我完全支持他的决定。他们在利用自己的影响力来确保管理层不会毫无作为,确保自己作为巨星的巅峰年华不会被白白浪费。
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