波尔津吉斯称没有大学生能复制东契奇的欧洲成就,商业互吹还是实
波神谈东契奇:“没有大学生能在欧洲最高水平的赛场中打出他那样的数据。这可是跟成年职业球员竞争啊!而且他还那么年轻,又充满自信,简直难以置信。“
Kristaps Porzingis on Luka Doncic : “There"s no college kid that would be able to put up those kinds of numbers at the highest levels in Europe, playing against professionals, grown men. And he"s so young with such confidence, it"s unbelievable.”
[–]MayorAvila 1106 指標 3小時前
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[–]KnicksJoetheshow1 206 指標 3小時前
Can I hop aboard the train here?
尼克斯球迷:请问是在这里上车吗?
[–]Knicksshrinkwrappedzebra 94 指標 3小時前
ALL ABOARD THE DONCIC EXPRESS!
尼克斯球迷:东契奇号列车即将发车,全体77吹请抓紧上车!
[–]SpursYaBoiWhit 213 指標 3小時前
The Luka Doncic hate train is getting bigger and bigger with every post but I seriously can"t wait to watch him play and prove hes worth the hype.
马刺球迷:现在东契奇黑的数量正随着每一个吹他的帖子而增加。但严肃地讲,我已经等不及看他上场并证明自己名不虚传。
[–]Timberwolvesnotafan1 549 指標 3小時前
People are going to say that Porzingis is praising Luka because he"s a fellow European but Porzingis actually played against Luka in the FIBA qualifier quarter finals and Luka put up 27 points on his team so Porzingis has seen first hand how good Luka can be.
人们肯定会说波神赞美东契奇是因为他们都是欧洲同胞。但波神其实在FIBA资格赛四分之一决赛的时候对阵过东契奇,后者砍下27分,所以他亲眼见过东契奇有多流弊。
Now if that will translate to the NBA is anyone"s guess but all these Europeans praising Luka isn"t based on nothing. Most of them have played against him or seen his game.
至于东契奇是否也能在NBA取得同样的成功,那是见仁见智啦。但这么些欧洲球员都赞扬东契奇可不是空穴来风,他们其中大部分人都和东契奇同场竞技过,或者看过他打球。
[–]SunsShirleythepirate 222 指標 3小時前
More importantly they’ve played against the European competition and nba players. They know both sides and still think Luka will be good.
太阳球迷:更重要的是这些球员跟NBA球员和欧洲球员都对抗过,对两边的情况都很了解,然后他们依然觉得东契奇会很棒。
[–]MagicStr8_up_Pwnage 46 指標 3小時前
Brandon Jennings is a good example supporting this. He became a pretty solid NBA player but at Doncic"s age he could not handle Euroleague very well at all.
布兰登-詹宁斯就是一个很好的例子。他后来算是成为了一个合格的NBA球员,但当他在东契奇这个岁数的时根本就不能在欧洲联赛立足。
[–]TimberwolvesMorezingis 19 指標 2小時前
Perfect example. He was eaten up over there sheerly by the fundamentals and experience of pro players. Doncic somehow already has that veteran savvy as a teenager.
楼上的例子简直完美。詹宁斯当时缺乏基本功和打职业比赛的经验,被欧洲球员完全生吞活剥了。而东契奇竟然在青少年时期就已经有老将的风范了。
[–]Knicks Tankwagonzetiano 44 指標 3小時前
Maybe if they were in Europe for a few years prior. But if they went straight from high school to Europe, it would be very unlikely for them to be able to dominate immediately.
尼克斯球迷:也许如果其他的大学生先在欧洲呆个几年再进入欧洲联赛的话会好些。但如果他们都是从高中之后直接进入欧洲联赛,那他们确实不太可能立刻就统治比赛。
[–]KnicksSammyKlayman 77 指標 2小時前
Carmelo Anthony scored 21ppg as a 19 year old rookie, 6 rebs, 3 ast in the actual hardest league in the world.
尼克斯球迷:卡梅罗-安东尼19岁的时候是新秀,场均21分,6板,3助攻,而且可是在世界上最难打的联赛里拿到这样的数据噢。
[–]NetsKashMoney941 76 指標 3小時前
The level of talent and competition in European professional leagues is just that much better than the NCAA. These are grown men and professionals, practicing and training for basketball full-time. The overwhelming majority of college players will never play a dribble of meaningful basketball again once they play their final college game.
篮网球迷:欧洲职业联赛的天赋和竞争压力就是比NCAA球员强不少。欧洲联赛里可都是成年男子,职业球员,全职进行篮球训练。绝大部分NCAA球员在打完自己大学生涯的最后一场比赛后这辈子都不会摸到有分量的比赛的地板了。
>90% of these guys would push their best friend off a cliff for a chance to even ride the bench in some professional league, but all the guys in those leagues have already made it and continue getting better.
这些大学球员里有90%的人为了能在职业联赛看个饮水机都会不择手段。但已经在这些职业联赛里打球的球员可都是已经成功留下并且在继续进步的人了。
Does this mean that Euro guys are inherently better? No, the best guys will make it to the league and make their presence known no matter what route they take. And most of the top top college guys have higher ceilings in the NBA than Euro guys. But I think people need to realize how valuable professional experience is and how ridiculous a guy dominating like Doncic has in Europe at the age of 19 is.
我说这些就是在证明那些欧洲球员天生就更好吗?不是的。是金子总会发光的,不管他们选择走哪条路。而且在进入NBA后,大部分NCAA联赛中的佼佼者可比欧洲球员的上限高。我只是觉得人们需要意识到拥有职业联赛经验是一件多么有价值的事情,还有就是,像东契奇这种在19岁就能统治欧洲联赛的球员有多么流弊。
I was saying this about Dzanan Musa when we picked him up too. He also has some great experience playing professionally and dominating against grown men at such a young age (obviously not the same extent as Luka but still). Does he have the same ceiling as the top college guys? No, but he still has proven himself on a bigger stage than most college draftees have so far, and that has to count for something.
我网摘下扎南-穆萨时我也是这么说的。穆萨同样拥有很好的职业联赛经验,而且他也很年轻的时候就统治了成年男子们(但明显和东契奇的水平比不了)。穆萨的上限能跟NCAA顶级新星比吗?比不了。但他依然在一个更大的舞台上证明了自己比大部分NCAA球员要强,所以这绝对是一项不容小视的成就。
[–]MavericksMysteriagant 2093 指標 3小時前
God I"m so fucking hard. Give me another quote praising him.
独行侠球迷1:鸡儿梆硬。快,再给我一条有头有脸的人物吹东契奇的言论。
[–]Mavericksxrixxirx 367 指標 3小時前
God I can’t wait for the first Doncic vs Porzingis matchup. Doncic sauced all over Latvia at last years EuroBasket。
独行侠球迷2:爽!我等不及看东契奇和波神的第一场NBA对阵了。东契奇去年在欧洲杯上简直玩遍了整支拉脱维亚队。
[–]Mavericksrustyphish 104 指標 3小時前
I just can"t wait to see the first Doncic-DSJ wide open transition bucket to see what they do. I have this fantasy of seeing this but with Luka throwing the bounce.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu5lztkLInc
独行侠球迷3:我嘛,比较等不及想看东契奇和丹尼斯-史密斯之间的第一次空位前场快攻配合,看看他俩能玩出什么花。我已YY许久了:东契奇传出一个击地,丹尼斯-史密斯起飞。
[–]LeJordanBelfort 627 指標 3小時前
Euro boys gotta look out for each other.
欧洲同胞商业互吹。
[–]TheIIArencibia 70 指標 3小時前
or maybe he just sayin straights faxxs and luka is a beast.
或者也有可能是波神说了大实话:东契奇确实是只野兽。
[–]76ersChampionOfTheSunAhhh 108 指標 3小時前
Porzingis trying to get traded to the Mavs
76人球迷:波神是想被交易到独行侠吧。
[–]Mavericksjuk12 175 指標 3小時前
独行侠球迷:要射!
[–]xJustChillin 358 指標 3小時前
When they faced each other at the euro basket Porzingis scored 34 while Doncic has 27
他俩在欧洲杯上交手时,波神砍下34分,东契奇27分。
[–][BOS] James Youngwalterdog12 162 指標 3小時前
I mean he"s right.
凯尔特人球迷:确实说得没毛病啊。
[–]SunsChrisAZ480 225 指標 3小時前
If you put college AD, Griffin, Melo, or a few other high profile college kids there are pretty decent odds they would have dominated as well.
太阳球迷:如果你把大学时期的浓眉,格里芬,甜瓜,或者其他几个瞩目的大学新星放到欧洲联赛打球,他们也很有可能统治比赛呀。
[–]Gkalaitza 99 指標 3小時前
Talent wise there would be some college prospects who would but you cant just drop them there and expect them to dominate due to their talent. Its a whole different game, rules, coaching, crowds, culture, playstyle, pressure etc. Doncic had the years of pro experience and maturing/bettering his game within this harder system to help him perform the best he can and even dominate.
就天赋来讲,有一些NCAA球员确实可以统治欧洲联赛,但你也不能只因为他们有天赋,就把他们直接送到欧洲,然后等着他们统治比赛,因为比赛、规则、教练、观众、文化、球风、压力等等完全不一样。东契奇有多年欧洲赛场的职业经验,在一个更艰难的体系里不断地成熟和完善自己的比赛,从而达到自己能做到的最好,甚至统治比赛。
Some 18 year olds may have been better players than Luka but that doesnt mean they would have performed better than him in the Euroleague at the same age
一些18岁的球员可能是比东契奇更强的球员没错,但这并不意味着他们能在欧洲联赛打出超过同龄东契奇的表现。
[–]SunsChrisAZ480 67 指標 3小時前
You never know how a player"s game is going to translate at the next level. But, to say that no college kid could have done what Doncic did is a pretty hefty statement. I would bet that at least a few of the best college players over the last couple decades would have been able to do what Doncic did, and that still puts him in very elite company.
太阳球迷:(回复楼上)你永远也不知道一位球员的技术水平是否能够成功适应更高级别的比赛。但是,说没有一个NCAA球员能达到东契奇的成就有点夸张了。我敢打赌,在过去的几十年间,至少有几个精英级别的大学球员可以复制东契奇的荣誉,话虽然是这样讲,但这依然代表东契奇隶属于精英球员行列。
That is why you have unranked high school players going on to be lottery picks, and undrafted and 2nd rounders go on to dominate in the NBA. Same thing would apply to the Euroleague if players ever cared to go there.
这也就是为什么高中时期都排不上号的人到了大学能成长为乐透秀,这也是为什么落选秀和二轮秀后来能统治NBA。如果美国本土新星愿意去欧洲联盟打球,这个道理一样适用。
[–]thehumangenius23 32 指標 3小時前
Also, how many euro stars have come to the NBA only to flame out or look average at best? Dragic is a euro star and he’s just a solid starter in the nba. I think Doncic has a higher foot than most guys but I’m mixed on my feelings of him being an elite player.
Either way, I would’ve wanted my team to take him.
同样,有多少欧洲篮球巨星来到NBA之后就陨落了呢?或者只是沦为平均水平球员呢?德拉季奇算是一个欧洲巨星,但他也只是在NBA成为了一个球队合格的首发球员而已。我认为东契奇比大多数欧洲巨星的下限要高,但对于他能否成为精英级别的球员,我还是不太敢肯定的。
但话说回来,如果有机会,我当然愿意自己的主队能得到他。
[–]Gkalaitza 44 指標 3小時前
Wasnt dragic an all star this year?
德拉季奇今年不是打进全明星了吗?
[–]CavaliersFewCansBeGrand 25 指標 3小時前
Due to injuries, this year. But I think he was before now? And even if not, he’s more than just a solid start, he’s a great team leader.
因为今年的伤病潮他才替补入选的啊。但我记得他之前好像也打进过全明星?就算以前没进过,他也不仅仅是一个合格的首发球员,他是一个很棒的球队领袖啊。
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